Error using Db Engine Tuning Advisor

I am running SQL 2005 Standard, obtained from a recent Launch event.
I got the Database Engine Tuning Advisor to run only once. Everytime after
that I get a runtime error: "R6031 Attempt to initialize the CRT more than
once. This indicates a bug in your application."
I had the same problem with the Sept. CTP release. Re-booting the machine
does not solve this problem. Basicaly, this is a useless tool if I need to
un-install and re-install it everytime I need to use it. I have tried
deleting all the sessions and creating a new one, re-booting.
Any ideas how to solve this? Do I need to wait for a Service Pack?
We are looking at the issue currently. It has been reported by a few other
people. Please gi ve us some more detail:
- does this happen immiediately after you start DTA UI or after you connect
to the server and the connection dialog goes away?
- if this is the second case (error after connecting) does the problem occur
if you simply Cancel the connection dialog?
- have you tried command-line DTA to see if it work? Run 'dta.exe /?' to see
the options if you have not seen it yet.
- does the error message contain any more information?
- can you check if at the time you see the error there is a dtaengine90.exe
process running on your system?
Thanks,
Maciek
"Todd C" <ToddC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I am running SQL 2005 Standard, obtained from a recent Launch event.
> I got the Database Engine Tuning Advisor to run only once. Everytime after
> that I get a runtime error: "R6031 Attempt to initialize the CRT more than
> once. This indicates a bug in your application."
> I had the same problem with the Sept. CTP release. Re-booting the machine
> does not solve this problem. Basicaly, this is a useless tool if I need to
> un-install and re-install it everytime I need to use it. I have tried
> deleting all the sessions and creating a new one, re-booting.
> Any ideas how to solve this? Do I need to wait for a Service Pack?
|||Is this TechNet discussion forum the best place to correspond regarding tech
support and error information?
I would be happy to supply any information you need. Can you e-mail me a
valid address so that we can take this 'off-line'?
Thank you.
todd_dot_chittenden_at_morantug_dot_com
"Maciek Sarnowicz [MSFT]" wrote:

> We are looking at the issue currently. It has been reported by a few other
> people. Please gi ve us some more detail:
> - does this happen immiediately after you start DTA UI or after you connect
> to the server and the connection dialog goes away?
> - if this is the second case (error after connecting) does the problem occur
> if you simply Cancel the connection dialog?
> - have you tried command-line DTA to see if it work? Run 'dta.exe /?' to see
> the options if you have not seen it yet.
> - does the error message contain any more information?
> - can you check if at the time you see the error there is a dtaengine90.exe
> process running on your system?
> Thanks,
> Maciek
>
> "Todd C" <ToddC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:438AAABC-1BA2-4677-B272-5D7766BEF9E2@.microsoft.com...
>
>
|||I will take this off-line as Todd requested. We will post back to the group
once we know the root cause of the issue.
Thanks,
Maciek
"Todd C" <ToddC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Is this TechNet discussion forum the best place to correspond regarding
> tech
> support and error information?
> I would be happy to supply any information you need. Can you e-mail me a
> valid address so that we can take this 'off-line'?
> Thank you.
> todd_dot_chittenden_at_morantug_dot_com
> "Maciek Sarnowicz [MSFT]" wrote:
|||I'm experiencing the same problem. See my answers below.
"Maciek Sarnowicz [MSFT]" <macies@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> We are looking at the issue currently. It has been reported by a few other
> people. Please gi ve us some more detail:
> - does this happen immiediately after you start DTA UI or after you
> connect to the server and the connection dialog goes away?
It happens after I connect to the server and the connection dialog goes
away.

> - if this is the second case (error after connecting) does the problem
> occur if you simply Cancel the connection dialog?
The problem does not occur if I press the Cancel button at the connection
dialog. But the problem does occur if I thereafter attempt to connect from
within the DTA.

> - have you tried command-line DTA to see if it work? Run 'dta.exe /?' to
> see the options if you have not seen it yet.
I tried using the command-line and had the same problem.

> - does the error message contain any more information?
It's a very vague message. Similar to Todd, I get the following:
Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
Runtime Error!
Program: C:\Progr...
R6031 Attempt to initialize the CRT more than once. This indicates a bug in
your application.

> - can you check if at the time you see the error there is a
> dtaengine90.exe process running on your system?
Yes, both dtaengine90.exe and DTASHELL.EXE are loaded. My only recourse is
to kill both processes.
Chris

> Thanks,
> Maciek
>
> "Todd C" <ToddC@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:438AAABC-1BA2-4677-B272-5D7766BEF9E2@.microsoft.com...
>
|||>> - have you tried command-line DTA to see if it work? Run 'dta.exe /?' to
> I tried using the command-line and had the same problem.
BTW, after returning to the command line, I see the following:
"Failed to initialize MSDB database for tuning (exit code: 1)."
Chris
|||Thanks Chris.
This confirms what Todd has reported. We are closing down on the issue,
please stay tuned.
Regards,
Maciek Sarnowicz
SQL Server SDE
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"Chris" <chris@.newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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> BTW, after returning to the command line, I see the following:
> "Failed to initialize MSDB database for tuning (exit code: 1)."
> Chris
>
|||I am having the same exact problem. I de-installed everything and
re-installed to no avail. All other tools and services are working fine so
far. I have never been able to "connect to the database using DTA". If I
hit cancel at the login, there is no error. When I try to connect the same
error is thrown on my machine. What is interesting is I just did a very
clean install on my computer less than 30 days ago. The only install issue
was that I was not running IIS for reporting services as it is not needed for
me.
I am running XP Pro with all SP and updates and .Net/updates prior to SQL
2005 Developer Install.
Software would be Office 03 and misc business apps.
Hope the problem is solved soon.
Thank you,
kirk
"Maciek Sarnowicz [MSFT]" wrote:

> Thanks Chris.
> This confirms what Todd has reported. We are closing down on the issue,
> please stay tuned.
>
> Regards,
> Maciek Sarnowicz
> --
> SQL Server SDE
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>
> "Chris" <chris@.newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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>
|||Anything new to report on this? Thanks.
"Maciek Sarnowicz [MSFT]" <macies@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Chris.
> This confirms what Todd has reported. We are closing down on the issue,
> please stay tuned.
>
> Regards,
> Maciek Sarnowicz
> --
> SQL Server SDE
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
>
> "Chris" <chris@.newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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>
|||Hi Chris
This issue is being investigated presently and is probably a
consequence of a filed windows/appcompat bug
(issue due to appcompat shimming and nothing to do with DTA process
itself -).
1.Can you check if you have registry entries corresponding to
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers?
In the past we have seen "explorer.exe " as an entry and removing that
fixed the problem
2.Also please check if an environment variable __COMPAT_LAYER is set?
"set __COMPAT_LAYER=" , basically disabled the compat layer and dta
ran OK
Please note that none of these are set by the tuning advisor exe - At
this point i am not sure what app does this
Manoj
Chris wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Anything new to report on this? Thanks.
> "Maciek Sarnowicz [MSFT]" <macies@.online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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